[Diamondback FOF]

Yep we will see in 8 days for sure. Also seeing how Carowinds presented this to the local government for tax breaks, wouldnt they have included the full price instead of 11 million. So that kind of puts it maybe being a flat ride or other attraction out of the question. I know if I was Carowinds I would have told them we are spending 25 million on a coaster. The more you spend the more of a tax break the gov will give you. Though after reading the artical again. This section caught my eye. "County Council members on Monday extended the fee/tax agreement for two more years, with current Carowinds owner Cedar Fair Entertainment pledging to spend another $14 million — bringing its total commitment to $28 million over the life of the agreement." Maybe Carowinds spent $11 million and Cedar Fair itself is booting the $14 million towards the coaster which equal's $25 million. "To date, Carowinds has spent about $14 million on the S.C. side of the park under the agreement".

No. It all comes from CF. Parks don't individually pay for new rides. It comes from the CF budget for the year.

[macbeth]

I just saw a story about the 11 mil. on channel 9 news. the guy said "Sor more info. about the new ride, stay tuned," then didn't mention it for the rest of the show (which was like, 2 minutes)

[evansk]

Is is possible that we are getting a new suspended coaster ala Top Gun (it will ALWAYS be Top Gun in my mind..lol)??

Humor me for a second. Look a the bolt patterns on this picture from Black Mamba

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And then look at the photos from derek a couple of weeks ago. The bolt patterns are nearly identical!

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Maybe it is some sort of Hybrid B&M coaster perhaps?? Either way, I really don't care what it is as I am glad that our home park is finally getting a BRAND NEW, "just for us" coaster and not a relocated one. We are WAY overdue. It is hard to believe that Top Gun is 10 years old, but I do understand some of how this business works. Thanks to CF for putting us at the top of the list this year!

[CarolinaCoasterFreak]

No. Look at the shape of the construction site. That would be the strangest inverted coaster ever.

[Jonathan]

[egrigg]

Yep we will see in 8 days for sure. Also seeing how Carowinds presented this to the local government for tax breaks, wouldnt they have included the full price instead of 11 million. So that kind of puts it maybe being a flat ride or other attraction out of the question. I know if I was Carowinds I would have told them we are spending 25 million on a coaster. The more you spend the more of a tax break the gov will give you. Though after reading the artical again. This section caught my eye. "County Council members on Monday extended the fee/tax agreement for two more years, with current Carowinds owner Cedar Fair Entertainment pledging to spend another $14 million — bringing its total commitment to $28 million over the life of the agreement." Maybe Carowinds spent $11 million and Cedar Fair itself is booting the $14 million towards the coaster which equal's $25 million. "To date, Carowinds has spent about $14 million on the S.C. side of the park under the agreement".

No. It all comes from CF. Parks don't individually pay for new rides. It comes from the CF budget for the year.

True to some degree but there are exceptions. I was a manager for a major pharmaceutical company , and I have a degree in business. I will explain this in terms everyone will be able to understand. Carowinds along with every company in the US get a spending budget every year from the parent company thats predetermined. Lets say for example Carowinds budget was $11million. Carowinds is shopping around for a new attraction and spot this nice coaster they always wanted. Like a child at a toy store they can't afford it, so they go to their parents, and say I really want this. The Parents cave in and boot the remaining amount. Ok simple explanation I know. In the business world Carowinds had an a budget of x amount of dollars. They wanted a ride that cost over budget. They go to the parent company present the idea. If the parent company thinks it will be a good investment they will boot the rest of the money. Cedar Fair see's this new ride has a good investment . By what I read Carowinds had $11, and Cedar Fair kicked in $14 million thats $25 million. It said they will invest 28 million LIFE of the agreement. Ok so simple math 11+14=25 thats $25 million. They said $28 million so where did the other 3 go. The agreement started in 2004. The Borg/Nighthawk was relocated in 2004 , so there goes some of the $14 million Carowinds has spent.

[Coaster Punk]

Oh so you can put a picture on here saying "NO" but when I put one on here saying "OWNED" it gets deleted? Is this a Message Board for the fans or a Message Board for the administrators?

[Jonathan]

Yeah, pretty much I can do whatever I want considering the fact that I own and pay for the site.

I would give you a little more leeway too like I do with many of the other members if you ever contributed a single thing of value to this board.

Where's your owned picture now?

[Chris]

Yeah, pretty much I can do whatever I want considering the fact that I own and pay for the site.

I would give you a little more leeway too like I do with many of the other members if you ever contributed a single thing of value to this board.

Where's your owned picture now?

[carowindsman6654]

Yeah, pretty much I can do whatever I want considering the fact that I own and pay for the site.

I would give you a little more leeway too like I do with many of the other members if you ever contributed a single thing of value to this board.

Where's your owned picture now?

+1. I would contribute pics but I live two hours away.

HA! Its hard for me (and plenty of other readers) to believe you are NOT a kid. Yeah that website is there, so what. Alot of people will rather wait til the 26 and be confirmed a name instead of make it seem like everyone else is dumb for not believing the name is white whatever...The name can be anything. Just because a domain was purchased doesn't really mean anything. Maybe that name was considered for something who knows, but we will all know on the 26...(some of us already know...

Fine, you win...as always.

[carowindsman6654]

HA! Its hard for me (and plenty of other readers) to believe you are NOT a kid. Yeah that website is there, so what. Alot of people will rather wait til the 26 and be confirmed a name instead of make it seem like everyone else is dumb for not believing the name is white whatever...The name can be anything. Just because a domain was purchased doesn't really mean anything. Maybe that name was considered for something who knows, but we will all know on the 26...(some of us already know...

Fine, you win...as always.

[Capler]

That 11 million is half the cost of the ride, which seems to be down a bit for a hyper. Fair will likely use the other half of the amount to get some consideration from the state of NC. They likely break everything up that way. That state line that runs through the park is not exact, and Carowinds probably does not want it to be. For years the park has played the two states against one another with that line. When it come to taxes and revenue the park likely does a 50% split between the the two states. If they went in and did an exact line and adhered to it, it would be a nightmare since many things would be in both states. With that said, the coaster costs $22 million but, $11 million is only for SC and York county's consideration.

[Jonathan]

That is a good point, and could be true. One thing I have heard in the past though is that which side of the of the state line new rides are on does make a big difference. South Carolina is more lenient when it comes to ride restrictions than North Carolina, which I have been told played a part in Top Gun being built in South Carolina, and additionally that Ricochet can't load with the cars continuously moving (like Hersheypark) because it is in North Carolina. That could be a bunch of hogwash, though.

[Coaster Punk]

I would give you a little more leeway too like I do with many of the other members if you ever contributed a single thing of value to this board.

How do I not contribute anything to this site when I made a logo for you? Is it because I do not drive two hours to take pictures of a construction site or is it that I do not add input to every post that is posted?

[Jarsh]

...or a Message Board for the administrators?

Why you gotta bring The G.A.P. up in the argument?