Grobble wrote:Panthersfan43 wrote:Silver dollar city is so for away from Carowinds if Carowinds wanted a spinning coasters that could have one
Not necessarily true. Like I mentioned before when Dives were unique Busch Gardens had it some nobody in the US could contract to build one from B&M for 10 years. SDC hyped up Time Traveler and public said they spent 26M on it, the most they every spent by far. I would bet on a US exclusion for a period in the contract over just a distance, it's the 1st ever Xtreme Spinner model. SDC broke the bank on this , they would want to protect it for a period.
Also, CF would likely want the 1st US Mack Multi-launch over the 2nd Xtreme spinner(the year after), even if there wasn't a exclusivity clause.
so the coaster company sells a park their coaster for $26 million, not unusual price tag for a headliner ride. They spend a great deal of time and expense coming up with spinning cars that they've never done. normally can sell many more coasters based on this design in future years for similar pricing. Let's allow them a 10% profit on that $26 million coaster. You're saying that instead of making that $2.6 million profit EACH AND EVERY TIME they sell it to another park somewhere, that they say, hey, SDC for no extra charge, we will forgo $2.6 million profit five, ten, maybe twenty times, and not charge you for it. You can have it exclusively for 10 years, and that $10-$40 million in profit for our company, we'll just let it go. Makes ZERO business sense. They would charge MANY many multiples if SDC wanted something exclusive like this.
Glitch99 wrote:Chris wrote:Hunter Blackburn wrote:Is it true that silver dollar city owns the right to the time traveler style Mack Spinner model? If so that throws the spinner argument out the window
How can a park own the rights to a manufacturer's design?
A roller coaster is like a franchise. When you open a McDonlad's franchise, the agreement protects you from them selling another franchise to someone else right across the street. There's some degree of geographical exclusivity included in the price. And given the headlining novelty of a coaster, that exclusivity could be nation-wide.
Also, I dont know how much this would happen in the world of roller coasters, but often when a client pays for a custom design, they're buying the rights to that design.
Now, who knows what level of detail "Time Traveler Mack spinner type model" would get down to in terms of what exactly can and cant be included in a build elsewhere, but it's virtually guaranteed there are restrictions as to what Mack can do with that design.
They would have had to make a **VERY** narrow definition of what they would not produce. Reasons in 1st response. We really have zero way to know what these contracts really say or prohibit or allow or are exclusive...It's kind of "roller coaster folklore" that people tell because we overheard someone say it during a PR blitz or media day or something. (Busch Gardens has an exclusive on B&M, and KD can't have them, etc.) Unless a company employee posts details (likely have a NDA that prohibits that) we'll really never **KNOW**. Marketing people from a park that is rumored to have something exclusive would never say otherwise, because to do so works against what they're marketing if they did. But we can be assured with the time and money spent by the company to design and develop the ride, they would charge a hell of a lot more than a standard coaster cost to guarantee a year of exclusivity, much more for a decade of it.
sccoasterbear wrote:Why is the pad for the ride op so far back from the actual pad? And for perspective that 8’ table when you zoom in shows the que is a little bigger than it first appears imo. And I wonder if they will shorten the cycle like they did with all of the county’s fair rides to keep the lines moving.
That table is likely to be a 6 foot table, not an 8 foot table. You can tell from the table legs, plus the most common "standard" collapsible tables are 6 footers. 8 footers are not as commonly found. If I'm right, it means everything is scaled 25% smaller if it's 6 foot, and the queue is smaller than if it's an 8 footer. hard to tell, but the queue seems very similar size and shape as when it was in the kids area up through last season.
