[John43221]

Just because a trim has been placed, it doesn't mean they'll use it for every cycle. Weather conditions and wind will play a factor.

While the majority of the site is flat, they still spent a decent amount of time and money to clear the man-made hill and level the ground where the Flume was. Depending on train delivery and weather, this thing could start testing as early as the first week in January.

[Diamondback FOF]

Yeah, it could start testing that early. But, what are the temperatures like? If it's too cold, it won't test that early. Also, when does usually Carowinds open?

[RacerAlex]

is it me or does that 3 hill seemed oddly shaped?

Thats the [now] classic B&M conical crest. Its utilized in all the Hypers and is responsible for the famed "ejector air" that these rides exhibit. The hills have a relatively sharp upturn at the base, followed by a very smooth and subtle transition during the climb. But at the crest there's a clearly defined change of direction at the exact peak.

[Diamondback FOF]

I guess the third hill is kinda shaped oddly, but not really at the same time. It is just a parabola, which gives the most airtime. If it was a more half circle, there'd be less airtime. If it was too steep of a climb, crest, descent, then the negative g's would be too extreme. I think it looks awesome.

[pb3176]

i was at carowinds today and took this pic of the third hill. not sure how much breaking it will do but im sure we will be glad it is there after the speed we are going to get from that second hill.

now the front is going to be a great seat but just think of the speed and power you are going to feel in the back. take afterburn for example. the front is great but get on the blue train and sit in row 6 seat 4 and wow.

[jasonwilson88]

What a buzzkill that closeup photo is. I hope it isn't turned on because that hill has a lot of potential.

[coasterbruh]

Let the whinning commence about the trim before even riding the coaster in 3...2...damn you beat me to it!

[coasterdave]

LOL

[chunkyskunk]

I think some here are worried way too much about this tiny trim. I will take a small trim which might help in providing a smooth and more pleasant ride experience anyday over no trim at all and a rougher ride. So far, Cedar Fair, Carowinds and B&M have treated us right big time in this new adventure in many ways. I have tons of faith that this small trim will not at all inhibit the thrill of this great coaster.

[jasonwilson88]

^ I can't think of a single example where a trim brake improved a ride experience.... please name one.

Flying over the tops of hills at high speeds is what makes coasters entertaining, but B&M has an odd habit however of clamping trains down right before they hit said top of hill, lowering the airtime potential. It's dumb in my opinion.

However, that being said, our trim looks very tiny. I don't imagine it could even have much effect if they wanted it to.

EDIT: Clarification. Let me once again stress how awesome/amazing I think our coaster will be. It just irks me from a design standpoint that they spend months engineering such an amazing, perfect layout and then slap ghetto trim brakes on the course. From an outsider's point of view, that brake admits that B&M's calculations aren't always perfect and they back themselves up. Seems odd on a $25 million machine.

[swampfox43]

From an outsider's point of view, that brake admits that B&M's calculations aren't always perfect and they back themselves up. Seems odd on a $25 million machine.

I don't think it has as much to do with calculations as it may weather conditions, which we all know can cause variations on any coasters speed.

[RollerBee]

Also, I remember that weight of the train can be a factor in the forces that the ride gives. Example: A heavy train is going to get more speed at the bottom of the first drop, and may retain said extra speed until the trim brings the train to normal speed, where as a light train may not need the trim to be used.

[PreferParamount]

I bet they wish the Son of Beast had a "small Trim" then. LOL. would have save that great ride a lot of trouble.

[Jarsh]

I think most people are hitting the nail on the head with this trim... It's just like the one after helix on SoGo. It's there as a speed control device. Meaning that it will prolly only be used in cases where the train is going to fast for it's on good. I've ridden SoGo PLENTY of time where it's trim never caught and I've ridden it plenty of times where the trim did catch. Either way doesn't make the ride less enjoyable.

<--- saving judgement for my personal rides...

[Jonathan]

What's funny is that I haven't really seen anyone on this board whine about the trim, but I have seen a number of people whine about people whining about the trim.